Hello and welcome to the Soul Alliance Self-Care Podcast.
I'm so happy you're here with me today and I'm excited to get to know you and a little
bit more about what you do in the world.
So to get started, I just want to say welcome and I want to ask you if you would be open
to sharing your journey, how you started doing what you're doing.
I believe when we share our stories, it encourages other people to move forward and also
help some feel like they're just not alone in the world.
Sure, I mean, it's a long story, so I'll pick important points, I think, that's roads.
That sounds good.
My mother passed when I was very young.
I was seven years old.
She took her own life.
So anyone who has felt abandoned or lost, and when you're that young, you don't really
understand reality, so you don't understand the context of depth of depth and the context
of suicide and what it really means.
Then I was shipped off to a foster care system and I was there for like seven months until
my grandmother got custody of me and that put me in a privately well-endowed boarding school
in Hershey, Pennsylvania named Milton Hershey School.
So I did my thing there as teenagers go, I started to become quite rebellious at 12, 13
years old and push back into the system.
And it was a difficult place for me because I'm a passive person.
So structure doesn't really work for me.
I work really well outside of structure.
And then of course, as soon as I got out of that, I decided to go to college, ship as
Berk, Pennsylvania and hung out there for a little while and realized that that scene
wasn't working for me.
I spent more time at the fried parties than I did in class.
And so, you know, wanted to counselors at a conversation with me and said, hey, look, maybe this isn't
the right time for you.
And I said, cool.
So I left and decided to become an entrepreneur.
I opened my own business called the Hogi King in Shenandoah, Pennsylvania.
I love that.
And I was selling sandwiches close to an industrial park to the guys who were hungry in afternoon
and after they got up work.
And to the nightly drinking crowd.
I got tired of that after about nine months.
Got tired of waking up early in the morning to go pick up bread and cheese and me and lettuce.
And then I had a friend's mom who said, hey, look, why don't you come live with me and my
husband and my daughter until you figure out what it is you really want to do.
And it happened to be on my birthday.
And so I said, okay, let's do it.
And I went into her basement and she had a biannual magazine about seal training and the
US Navy seals.
And I picked it up.
I read it front to back, back to front, scroll through, looked at all the pictures.
And I had a very strong gutter response.
And then a week later, I was at the recruiter's office.
And four months later, I was in the Navy.
And heading towards becoming a US Navy seal.
So I had some challenges in seal training physiologically.
And I didn't do really well with the cold because I was very lean.
I was 1.2% body fat, which is unusual.
So I went up to UCS, USD to get tested in hydrostatic, hydrostatically.
So they put you in a pool of water and then you blow out all of your air and they weigh
you.
And they did the test again and again and again because they couldn't believe I was so lean.
So they thought he must not have much fat around his organs.
And that's what's causing him to go into these high states of hyperthermia.
Wow.
So I got through the program, got to the SEAL teams, got out of that community in 1997 and
went back to college and focused on attempting to get to the Olympic trials I ran track and field.
And I always loved running.
And so that seemed like a smart move for me.
So I was going to college, getting educated and chasing my dream at the same time.
And I opened up a business called Fitness Fanatics and started to train people on how to get
fit and healthy.
Then I started studying kinesiology and a lot of physical stuff, training and body fat percentage
and VO2 max and all the things that come along with learning how to be physical and fit.
But I didn't really understand the difference between fit and healthy.
And so that brought me into this interesting state, which I think is what we're mostly going
to talk about is I started to get injured over and over and over again.
I was having a bunch of soft tissue injuries.
So plantar fasciitis, runners knee, compartments in the room of my life calf, early in the day
to have friction, sipsure and I had rupture to burst in my left hip.
Extreme discomfort in the left side of my low back, frozen shoulder syndrome on the left,
and then limited range of motion turning to the left.
And then I started to build these sort of little tumors around my left wrist and elbow.
So all on the left hand side of my body.
Interesting.
Yeah.
And so I, of course, in the Navy SEAL team mindset, I just continued to keep pushing the envelope,
even though my body was giving me signals to really slow down.
Like I obviously was putting in too much effort and energy.
And so the way that I get people to understand it is I was spending, let's say it was 1999,
I was already spending energy from 2005.
I totally get that.
Yes.
Yes.
So my body was going deep into its reserves.
I was spending my capital as opposed to my interest.
I was ignoring all the subtle signs that my body was giving me.
I was ignoring the medium signs and the really intense signs.
And I just continued to keep training because I had taken on some limiting beliefs.
And those limiting beliefs landed me in with a body of pain and discomfort.
Now when you say limiting beliefs, what do you mean by that?
Meaning that I can go hard all day every day and there's not going to be a process.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
And if it's what's one of those sayings in sealed term, we learn to say it called if you don't
mind, it doesn't matter.
Okay.
Right.
So if you don't mind being in pain, just keep moving forward because your goal is more important.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then what's the other one paint something about pain?
Okay.
I don't know.
I don't know, but I did the same thing.
Honestly, when I had had my stroke, same thing.
I felt, one of the things I kept telling myself was, I'm young, so I can handle this.
Nothing bad is going to happen because I'm young.
Okay.
So tell me, move into the true body intelligence and what that is and what that means.
Yeah.
So I do want to comment on what you said first.
So I, for any of the listeners who were younger or even if you're middle age 45, 50, the thing
about it is that whatever you're doing, it will eventually catch up with you.
And it's only a matter of time.
And there's, this is the perfect time to interrupt whatever self-defeating pattern that you
have, whatever limiting belief that you took on.
No one is a superhero.
Our bodies are very fragile and very vulnerable.
And if we treat them well, then they respond in a way that helps us sustain a very happy,
joyful, comfortable, exciting, wonderful life.
And if we abuse our body, it will eventually fight back.
So you understood that through having a stress, I understand that by losing my vision,
losing my hearing, being suffering from insomnia for a very long time and having the
ability to take in states of discomfort, pain and stiffness in every single joint in my
body on the left hand side.
So I think the message that you and I together are giving everybody, look, take care of your
body.
Because you only have one.
And be judicious with your time, your energy, your resources.
Okay.
So true body knowledge.
How did that come about?
I had a guy who was a good friend of mine in boarding school named Mark Perspilaja.
And Mark came out to visit me for two weeks.
We traveled around, and showed him a California.
We went out to see some of our buddies from boarding school that lived close to Sedona, Arizona.
And it was great, it was a great time.
He goes home and then maybe two, three weeks later, I get an email from him that says, hey,
look, I just saw this guy in Good Morning America.
He's got five stretches that will change your life.
And he knew at the time what I was suffering from, but also all the things that I was doing.
And at that time, because I was immature, I was very defensive.
I took offense to him sending me an email implying that I needed help.
Right?
I'm thinking, I got this covered.
Why don't you help yourself?
Right?
So I sort of ignored his email.
But in two weeks later, a client of mine, named Mottie, she called me and said, hey, look,
I just saw this guy in Good Morning America and I go, let me guess, he's got five stretches
that will change my life.
Okay?
But there's one thing that I knew from living with my grandmother that nobody gets on Good
Morning America two times in two weeks.
So I thought, what is this guy doing?
I was a type of person who always waited for things to happen in threes.
And this time, something said, don't wait for another person to have to come tell you this.
So I got on the internet, started to track him down, took me a while to get a hold of him,
about six months.
And when I got a hold of him, he was reluctant to actually see me and give me help because
he was focused on writing a book and developing his stretching method, all the other things
he told me.
And I just kept pushing forward and saying, look, man, I really need your help.
I'm going through this stuff.
I don't really understand it.
My goal is to get to Olympic trials.
I feel like you're the guy.
And I kept them on the phone for two hours.
And eventually he said to me, listen, I'll call you in three days and let you know when I
have a weekend free.
And I said, look, you better call me in three days because I'm not going anywhere until you
do.
I'm going to stay right here.
Man to man, Manu and Manu, you mean you're really going to call me?
He said, sure.
Well, he emailed me a book in the meantime about traditional Chinese medicine.
About the book, opened it up.
He gave me some directions, some stretches that I should do in the meantime before we have
our conversation.
And when he gave me, it was just so much pain involved.
Well to make a long story short, I went up to see him.
We spent four days together.
He worked on me six to eight hours a day.
By the time I went home, nothing was the same about me.
My body was different.
All the pain was gone.
All the stiffness was gone.
My flexibility that I had as a young person was back.
My sleep was perfect.
My vision returned.
My hearing returned.
And I had a new lease on life.
But the wild thing that happened was what I went to the airport and I was walking through
crowds.
People were bumping into me where before people would step around me.
That's weird.
Yeah, well, when you're in ABC or you're giving off an intensity, like there's an intensity
to who I am, right?
And people are picking that up and they're like, whoa, this is too intense for me.
And now they weren't doing it.
They were just basically, I was felt like a bumper car at a, what do you call those at
a park in the summertime, right?
And it just kept bumping into me, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, I thought, man,
something, this is weird.
So I got on a flight and usually, you know, when I get on a flight, people, they don't
really want to talk that much.
But everyone was engaging me and I thought, this is what's going on?
Because you know, you have a way that you move through the world and I'm very self-aware.
So I know how people are responding me all the time.
Because I'm always in observation mode.
And everything from that moment of working with him changed.
So the way that my penmanship changed, my sleep changed, my energy changed, my mood changed,
my purpose or the place that I was coming from, the way I was engaging life had changed,
instead of being self-focused and hyper engaged towards getting to the Olympic trials and
overtraining, suddenly I was under training.
I wasn't doing enough lifting or running.
What I spent all my time and energy doing was removing tension and stress and distortion.
So that helped give me a completely different education.
So when I got back to California, within about four years, I was enrolled into the Pacific
College of Science and studying pathophysiology and traditional Chinese medicine.
And then I just started to put systems together, figuring out all the things that I did and
all the people that I hired and helped me and trained me.
What was really working and what were these things really good for?
Because anytime you go to a healer, they always think that the thing that they're doing is
like the thing and it's going to solve, and you've helped, you've had this.
And it's going to solve everything.
If we get into Dr. Joe D'Spenze, he thinks like meditation is everything and you go to
a problem and he's like motivation and accountability.
And if you go to a rulfur, they think structural integration and you go to Western medicine
doc and he thinks pills and I just started to see that the things that I was doing, they
were really good for one thing.
But all the other things that they thought they were good for, they weren't so much because
I was the type of person where I would jump in to the deep end and I would do everything
that they said to the letter and I would then observe what was the actual impact of what
they were doing.
So then I just started to piecemeal and put together ways of working with the body and people's
energy and people's emotions that produce the verifiable repeatable results.
So I basically took seal training and I turned it into heel training by investigating a
working on myself five to six hours a day and working with others, you know, seven to
10 hours a day.
Right?
So I was a lot of hours.
Yes, I was a lot.
A lot, right?
I was constantly immersed in understanding because once I understood the transformation was
possible, I felt I had a fiduciary responsibility to complete what I had started.
And then once I started to see these profound results happening in other people's lives,
I thought, okay, I found something worthy of my time, my energy, my effort and my commitment.
And so I dedicated every ounce of energy that I had.
So true body intelligence is a conglomeration of all the things that I have learned and all
the things that I've put myself through.
What I've done is I've broken it down into systems and bite-sized pieces because I understand
the implicate order of true transformation.
If you want a verifiable repeatable result.
Yes.
So I have one question.
When you went and you spent the time with that man and you said you were working, he worked
on you like five to six hours a day, what was he doing?
Well, six to eight hours a day.
Six to eight hours a day.
Yeah, yeah.
We were using eccentric contractions and isometric contractions while putting my body in these
very odd positions.
Okay.
And he was standing on me and while he's got all his weight on me, I'm having to squat down
and twist over and he just had this wild mind.
He could just look at you and go, oh, yeah, look how your shoulders rotated.
Let's get in this position and I would resist against him and he'd be twisting me and
look, let me tell you something.
It was painful, right?
There was nothing about it that was comfortable.
It wasn't like, oh, I'm laying on a massage table and they're rubbing oil on me and playing
flute music in the background and I'm going to take a long nap.
I can totally appreciate that because I've had a sport massage before and I had this, I
thought I tore a muscle or pulled the muscle in my back playing golf and I was supposed
to do a triathlon, like soon I was training for a triathlon and I couldn't even take a
deep breath, right?
So I was like, I can't do this triathlon.
I, you know, it'll be so awful.
I don't want to, I don't want to do it.
And then I ended up going to Vegas.
I had a trip plan to Vegas and I was in Vegas and I had this sports massage done at the
Bellagio actually.
And after that, sports massage, that was very painful, not a fun massage at all, but I was
completely fixed.
So it wasn't a pulled muscle or torn muscle or anything.
It was tight, I guess.
And that changed the way I looked at things because I really, really thought I was injured,
but it wasn't really an injury.
It was like a tightness.
Yeah.
And the massage I'm assuming was uncomfortable.
Very uncomfortable.
Yeah.
And that's what people have to understand that are listening.
Like if you're going and you're thinking you're going to lay on the table, some's going
to rub, I call them oil rubbers, right?
They're going to rub oil on you and have a nice conversation.
You're going to listen to music.
Great.
If you're doing that to relax and you just want to offload a little bit of the stress from
the week, cool.
But if you think that that's going to cause a radical shift in healing in you and you've
got something really deep going on and I had something really deep going on.
Like you can imagine seal training.
Like we're pounding on ourselves, you know, 18 hours a day.
You're getting beat on and you're in the seal teams and the same kind of thing is happening
because everything that we do, if you make a mistake, your life is on the line.
So you have to be mentally engaged.
You have to be physically engaged.
You have to be energetically engaged.
You have to be emotionally engaged.
And so I needed somebody who was going to be able to use larger forces and a greatest
force in your body is called an eccentric contraction, meaning it's 50 to 50% stronger
than a concentric contraction, which means if you went to the gym and you were trying to
do a bench press, right?
That's called a concentric contraction.
If you can lift a hundred pounds, you can lower 150 with the same level of skill.
So the eccentric contraction is stronger.
So I needed the strongest force possible that the body could access and utilize.
So he used isometric and eccentric contractions to basically take enough tension out of my
muscles in my fascia to cause my bones to rotate back towards a normal or let's say a healthy
position.
And when those bones rotated back to a normal position, all the pain in the joints, all the
pressure, all the swelling, the swelling had space to go down.
And now there wasn't pressure where there wasn't supposed to be pressure.
So then of course, there was no fluid to push on the surrounding nerve tissue.
So there was no pain.
Wow.
That's so interesting.
So the true body intelligence is it's a bunch of different things put together.
That's a bunch of different things.
Yeah.
And so move me through some of the things that you include in true body intelligence.
Yeah.
So what I was doing with him, I would, you know, he had a system at the time he called
the meridian stretching method, right?
And then when I left him, I realized that what I went back into track and field, I realized
that I wasn't equipped to perform really well because even though eccentrically, I was
very strong and my muscles were long, my body was now weak and unfit, right?
So I decided, well, what you need to do is you need to do isometric, eccentric and concentric
contractions together.
And then that would produce a highly balanced body.
So explain to me what that means.
What that means is the concentric contraction is there to strengthen the body.
So the isometric contraction is there to recruit new tissue into the movement.
And then eccentric contraction is there to stretch.
So what you want to do is you want to strengthen, recruit, stretch, now that you've opened
the tissue further, now you want to strengthen that new tissue, you want to recruit more tissue
and now you want to stretch that, that tissue.
So strengthen, recruit, stretch, strengthen, recruit, stretch and as you do that rep after,
rep after, rep after rep, you start to get closer to the center point, the belly, the deep belly
of the muscle.
And as you start to turn on those tissues, you start to get very strong.
You start to become very stable structural and you start to become high.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
So all these movements done all at once or you spend time strengthening and you spend time
stretching, you spend, you know, how is it?
Yeah, it's all done in one movement.
Okay.
It's all done in the same, it's all done in one sequence.
Okay.
So imagine I have, I'm holding your wrist, right?
Okay.
And you're now, I'm giving you force and you're lifting your wrist towards your shoulder,
right?
And now you're strengthening your bicep, right?
You're strengthening that, right?
So I'm resisting the answer to come to this.
I'm resisting against your right.
You're squeezing, you get here.
I continue to get you to squeeze for three seconds and as you're squeezing maximal force,
now I start beating that force, right?
Now I'm stretching, okay?
And I get to the end, I have you push against me for three more seconds, right?
Now I'm recruiting more, yeah, now I'm recruiting more tissue, right?
So it's all in the same sequence.
But if we went through that nine times, the tissue would be wide open afterwards, which
now allows more nutrients to flow in, greater amount of electrical flow, all the lip nodes
surrounding that tissue, they've been pumped and cleaned out.
And now you've built a massive amount of strength.
And so then your body becomes steel wrapped in silk, okay?
Right, so that's that's something.
So go ahead.
Okay.
Well, I was going to ask, well, I want you to continue, move on.
What's the, what move through everything that you wanted to send to them?
So then you got to get in, you got to think about the fascia and how do I work with the
fascia and how do I work with?
The excessive tension in all of the soft tissues, right?
And so of a system called mashing.
And what I did is when you go to school and you study in your traditional Chinese medicine,
they have a thing called TMM, which is tendo muscular channels, right?
And tendo muscular channels have a specific line from your foot all the way up towards your
head or from your arm all the way towards your chest or from your, or from your eyes all
the way down towards your feet, right?
Fronted a body and the back of the body.
As you start massaging those channels, right?
As you start putting pressure on them rhythmically and the person's breathing relative to the
amount of discomfort that they're feeling, what happens is the fascial body, let's go
of the trapped emotional memories that were negative.
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is for, you know, so you're, it allows, it allows that release to happen. And so I, I
would imagine that when you do that type of work, you have a lot of emotional release,
yes, seems like. So this is not just good for the physical body and the health of the
body, but it's good for the emotional body, you guess. And so go ahead, I'm sorry. Well,
so think about this, the physical body's present centered, right? It's in the present day to
day. It's in this, it's, it's in this 24 hours. And we have proof that it's in this 24 hours,
okay? But the emotional bodies connected to the past. And so every human that has had
disruptive experiences and a disruptive experience for a child is there a year old, they're
crawling towards the shiny new thing in the living room and the parent yells, "Jake, because
they want to shock them so they can get to them before they bump their head, right?"
Yeah.
So, so every child born has had a shocking experience, right? Maybe a piece of food that's in their
mouth when they're swallowing is like stressing about, because it's just a little too big,
or maybe mom and dad are having an argument that they don't understand. Or moms getting
ready to go to the ball to go Christmas shopping and they're taken outside and it's, you know,
they live in Minnesota and it's, it's five degrees below zero. Yeah. Like all of those experiences
for a newborn in a child, those are all shockworthy experiences. Right. And so most people don't
understand that every single person born has trauma. Yeah. Because they don't think what
it's like to be six months old. They don't think about what it's like to be hungry for two
month old baby in the crib and the mom still asleep and the child's stomach is nying
on them to get some nourishment, right? But they have no way to communicate that. Or they
were left in the crib for an hour too long and they're crying and no one's tending to them
emotionally. All of these are shocking experiences for children. For adults, you'd be like,
ah, stop wine and I was in the living room. What are you crying about, right? But for six
month old baby, a three month old baby, an 18 month old baby, these are traumatic things.
Like a child's doing something and you take a toy out of their hand, right? And they're
focused on this thing and their curiosity and they're just suddenly shockingly just that's
taken away from them. All these events get stored in the body. And so as we start to move
up and down the body with rhythm and breath, again, breathing relative to the true level
of sensation that they're feeling, then what happens is the body, the emotions give the
body permission to let go of the events and everyone has hundreds of events, right? Imagine
you're four years old, you're at the park, you're playing with your toy and another kid
comes up and grabs it. It takes it away. This kid doesn't know what's going on, right?
Yeah. And they're still in the precognitive state of function so they don't understand
the context, right? Yeah. So I would say there's thousands of events. Yeah. Right. So
there's so many. Yeah. Let's take it there. So there's thousands of events. No parent
gets parenting right? No. The job is to be perfect. The body is designed to absorb and
take in these events until there comes a moment when this person sees that, hey, something
in my life isn't working out the way that it could. I should be progressing further.
I should be evolving faster and get on not. Let me go talk to someone. Let me see what
I remember, right? And that's just what you remember, right? Most kids, most adults are
going to remember three or four events be under the age of four years old. That's about
it, right? Well, how about all the thousand events that were upsetting for them? All that
upset has to be stored somewhere until the person is old enough to process the emotional
content in that experience. And so true body intelligence is here to locate where those
are and to pull them out. And the way that we know where they are is wherever you push
into the body. And there's pain. There's an unresolved event. Okay. Wherever you push into
the body, and there's pain, there's an unresolved event. The truth is most humans are never
pushing into their bodies. So they have no idea how much pain they have because most
humans, their experience of pain is in their joints. But if you're anyone who's ever
suffer from any bit of joint pain, all the tissue above that joint and all of that tissue
below that joint muscle, fascia, ligament, tendon is full of pain. I guarantee you, it's
full of pain. It's unquestionable. So true body intelligence is here to help the person
locate where these levels of discomfort, whether the surface layers, whether the medium
layers or the deep layers. And when we think about the deep layers of muscle and muscle and
fascia, we have to start thinking about generational tension, stress, and psychological emotional
distortion. So when you work with a true body intelligence practitioner, your focus is
to diminish the lifetime accumulated stress loads that are being held within all of the
soft tissues in the body so the person can move into a greater state of freedom.
Okay. So I have a question. I'm sorry to interrupt you. I don't want to forget the question
though. So did you ever find out why it was your left side of your body? Yes. Yes. Was that
something that was was that that that have something to do with a certain trauma that
you experienced? Okay. Yeah. So so if it's like on one side of the body, does it mean something
or is it just different for everybody? Yeah. So my mother was the one who took care of
me. Okay. My grandmother raised me. So I was raised by by women. So my mother, Patricia,
my grandmother, Gertrude and and and my ampe. Elizabeth and my mother was abusive in the
sense that she was expecting me to know things that no five year old should know. And then
responding is if I was an adult and then coming down with radical amounts of punishment and
humiliation and discomfort and pain. And so the left side of your body is feminine. Okay.
I said it means so that's right brain dominance. Left side of the body. Okay. Right brain is feminine.
Left body is feminine. So that part of me was what you would say if I was lying down on
a table. What would happen is that side would be pulled up. But when I was standing up, that
side would be too long. And so whenever I was running and training, the left side of my
body was taking too much stress. Okay. That makes sense. That makes sense. And so when you're
working with somebody, say you're working with somebody who has a lot of built up traumas
in the body, is there a certain speed that you have to work with them in order for them?
Would it be, I don't know how to say does, would it be bad for them to be release all of that
at once or should it be something that's not slowly? Well, the thing is we can't release
it all at once. And the reason why we can't release it all at once is because let's say
the person comes to see me in their 50, right? It took them 50 years to get where they
are. It would be unrealistic to think that within 10 hours, right? We could remove 50 years
of distortion. But what we can do is, is if we use the analogy of a damned up river, we
can remove the boulders. Okay. Within those first five days. So when I work with someone,
I work with them for five days in a row, we can remove the boulders. Then I can teach you
how to begin to remove the pebbles. Yeah. And then I show them what they need to do each day
in order to remove a few more pebbles. After 90 days, they've removed a lot of pebbles. When
they come back, then we remove the stones. So we got the boulders, we got the stones,
we got the pebbles. And then we have the sand and the dirt and then we have the dust. Right?
So to remove all of that, right? The gross to the subtle, it takes a little more time.
But what we will do, guaranteed, we will work every part of their body that we do work
on. We will bring it down to neutral. I don't care if they ever feel pleasure. What
I do care is they're in a state of neutrality because neutrality is the first level of enlightenment.
Okay. If your body isn't at neutral, there's no way for your mind. If your body is at neutral,
your mind is at neutral. If your body is at neutral, your emotions are at neutral. If your body
is at neutral, your energy is at neutral. So in neutrality, you can access the first stages
of enlightenment. Okay. So my goal when I'm working with people is to get them to neutral.
So I don't want that. I've been working with for, what, six years. Okay. And we worked this
past week. And she finally is down to what's called a true neutral because we work through
the medium, the surface layers of tension stress and distortion. We've worked through the
medium layers of tension stress and distortion. And now we're down into the deep layers of
tension stress and distortion. And she's finally at neutral at the deeper layers. So now we're
getting down to the deep root of everything that happened for her and why she's behaved
the way that she's behaved and why her why her life has turned out the way that it's turned
out. And it's just fascinating. That's very, that is fat, that is fascinating. Now after you work
with somebody and you send them on their way, after they reach this point of neutrality, what do
they do? Is there some kind of, um, program maintenance? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's better than
maintenance. Yeah. So the thing that I teach them, I teach them what are called bester sizes. So
that's part of the true body intelligence pillars, right? So best their size stands for bio, energetic,
self, transformational sequences. So we called them best because we're utilizing isometric, eccentric
and concentric contractions through a very specific sequence to produce a very specific result.
So here's the thing that people don't know. Outside of you and me right now, if you put your hands
out here like this, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's do that for a second. Put, put, put your hands up
like this. Okay. Out here is called universal cheat, right? There's a massive amount of
electromagnetic energy around us at all times. Okay. Okay. When I am going through this sequence,
what's happening is that channel that I'm open opening specifically. So let's say the energetic
channel, my body, I'm opening is connected to the pancreas. Okay. Then what happens is this universal
chi, universal energy that's, that this bubble that's around me at all times, it starts pulling that
energy into that channel, which then starts filling that organ back up with energy. Okay. And so the
purpose of best, the purpose of their, their program when they go away is to reduce tension stress
and distortion while simultaneously pulling massive amounts of universal energy back into their
body to restore, to repair, to replenish the energy reserves that they immaturely used
between womb and 30 years old, right? Okay. Yeah. I've used up a lot of mine. Yeah. Yeah. But it's easy
to repair. It's easy to restore. Yeah. I have this visual of this, this best exercise. I have this
visual of almost like a tai chi type thing for some reason. Is that something that it kind of looks
like those types of exercises? Yeah. Let's see. Does it look like a tai chi exercise? It looks more
like you isolating one group of muscles, one channel of energy, for instance, if I, it would look
like this. So I pull my arm across my chest, right? My elbow is high. Now this hand, this hand is
going to resist this hand, right? So now I start resisting and while I'm resisting, I'm opening
at the same time. Okay. When I get to the end range of motion, I take in a deep breath, I keep resisting
and while I'm resisting, I'm pulling this across my body. So now I'm lengthening all the muscles
across the back shoulder, now outside of my arm. I keep pulling in tight. Now I resist again.
See? So tai chi is full body, true body intelligence is isolation. And then I resist and I pull across.
If you did that 10 times in a row and you went to the mirror and you looked, your right arm would be
three inches longer than your left. I'm totally going to try this now. Yeah. Yeah. It would literally,
you don't really be like, wow, I can't believe how much longer my right arm is, but it would be
like, because now all the tension and stress that was stored here around the outside is now gone.
But when you have that tension stress there, it holds your shoulder up and pushes it forward.
Now my shoulder has space to go back and go down. If you did that to both sides, suddenly you'd go to,
you would be driving to go get groceries, you would turn left and you'd go, wow, I have a lot more
range of motion in my head and neck now. So all the access, all the best exercises are like that.
We're isolating one group of muscles and taking you through a very specific sequence.
Okay. To open, but now there's more energy flowing through here, plus I pulled universal energy into
restore the energy that I used yesterday into my large intestine.
That is so interesting. I don't know a lot about Chinese medicine. I've always been very interested
in it and I, maybe you could recommend a few books that I could read to like, that's how I always
start something when I'm interested in it. I have, I read a few books and see if I want to continue.
I, so tell me the process, first tell me the type of people that you seem to gravitate towards
your work with. Yeah. Well, it's everything, right? So it's everything from professional athletes to
highly successful entrepreneurs to people who are like your parent, right? And you got three kids
and they don't get along, right? And you're just, you're at withs end and you need some help
reducing the tension stress and distortion in the household, right? So I might work with the mom,
work with the dad and work with the kids. It depends on what the person's goal is, but it's usually people,
there's something about people who are ambitious, right? They sort of, those people are always
looking for solutions, ambitious people. I was just going to say that that's, yeah, they're, they're,
they're looking for the solution. Yeah, that's the, yeah. So I'd say people who are spiritually,
emotionally, ambitious. Do people come to you more for physical reasons or for mental reasons?
I think people come to me for, for, for growth. Okay. I'd say that's across the board. If I looked at
everyone in like the last year, they came because they wanted to express, right? They wanted
higher level of life expression. And that's what we give them, right? Because the thing about your
body is is when your body is aligned, your spirit is, let me say, when your spirit is aligned and your
body is aligned, your emotions are grounded and your mind is quiet. And when your mind is quiet
and your emotions are grounded and your spirit and body are aligned, it makes it very easy to make
really good decisions. You're making good decisions with your words, right? So your relationships work,
you're making good decisions with your money. So you're investing well, you're making good decisions
with your time. So you have a healthy life, work, family balance, right? And so all of this,
every part of you feeds every other part of your life. And so if you know that there's 16 major
parts to your existence, then it would be really smart to take four of them and work on them for a few
months and then take the next four and work on those for a few months and spending year really putting
your body back together, put your emotions back together, put your mind back together, put your
spirit back together so that you could have the experiences in your life that you're craving. And
maybe what you're craving is as a wife, maybe you're craving a husband who makes you feel safe.
Well, if you're craving that, you have to become that, right? Maybe you're an athlete in your craving
to win a championship. In order to win a championship, you have to do everything required in order to
make that become true. So you have to look at the places where you're limited and wherever we're
limited, we're in pain. And how do we know? Because our mind is overactive, our emotional bodies
anxious, so we suffer from anxiety, our bodies uncomfortable and our energy is insufficient.
So if you have insufficient energy, you have any bit of pain or discomfort or stiffness in your body,
you have a mind that's overactive and you have energy that's insufficient, then obviously
you need help because you're never supposed to feel like that. I have more energy now, and I'm
going to be 60 than I had when I was 15 years old. That's, I think I need to do like a month worth of
whatever you're, whatever you're going out there. No, no, no, no, remember I told you, Thomas
Sprig as a diner called Sprig Steiner and professor New York, you need to go down to see Thomas.
I need to see Thomas, yeah. And he, and he will get you started. Yeah. Well, I've taken up a lot of your time.
I feel like I can talk about this for a couple more hours, but talking about how can people find you
and connect with you and learn more about working with you? Yeah, the easiest thing is to go to
truboneteligence.com. You would order the book that I wrote called Free for Life, okay? And as soon
as you're done reading that, you would email Christina Lynch at [email protected] and she would set us up
on a connection call. If you're into social media and Instagram, you could, my name Christopher Lee
Mauer. If you go to YouTube, true, true body intelligence, if you want to watch, if you want to learn more,
then follow the true body intelligence podcast because I purposely filmed 20 episodes so people could
fully understand all the steps you need to take in order to create a true transformational experience.
And it's free. It's free education. Yeah. Oh, I'll check that out. Before we have off, though,
I'll put all of this in the show notes that people can find you. But before we have off, can you just
tell me a little bit about your book Free for Life? Yeah, yeah. Free for Life is three parts. The first
part is the biography, the second part is the philosophy and the third part of the book is where
I explain the systems that we use in trubonet intelligence to create a true transformation for someone.
Excellent. I'm definitely going to read that. I love reading books. I'm definitely going to check that out.
Okay, Christopher. Thank you so much for all of that education. I'm definitely going to dive deep
into this. This is, I find it very interesting. Thanks for sharing this with all the listeners as a path
that they could take. And I would love to have you on again and talk more about a more topic that would
be about body of light. Okay. That would be an interesting topic. Okay. Coming soon, body of light. Yeah.
I'm writing notes. I'm taking notes. Okay. Thank you so much, Christopher. Okay. Bye. Bye.
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